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Waltzing Rapunzel



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PostSubject: What is over-sheltered?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:40 pm

Well, this came up in discussion over in the girls only section, and we thought it would be very neat to get everyones opinion on it! So...

What is over-sheltered?

Likely, as a home-schooled student, I would be considered "over-protected". I mean hey, I've never been to a sleepover, I don't have facebook... my parents really must have some issues!
But I disagree. All the above things are true, but... look at the odds. I have acted in a movie, I take professional singing lessons, I have performed many times with other musical instruments, taught a Bible class, have about 12 penpals. I have many friends, guys and gals, I got to professionaly model...And folks still ask what my parents do about socialization!

Now, I threw that in because I disagree with lots of people opinions on "over-protection". But I know many people have been over sheltered!

So, without any further remarks... go ahead!

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:46 pm

Over-sheltered is not letting your kids realize what it's like in the real world. Kids have got to know what it's like out there or they'll be totally shocked when they leave home.

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:09 pm

But, how much should you let them know?

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:27 pm

Everything they need to survive. They've got to realize that life isn't fair and no one's going to say "that's ok, everything's fine, just try again. everyone loves you, and it's ok." No one is going to cut you any slack. You have to develop a tough skin. People need to know what it's like out there.

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:35 pm

Over-sheltering is sheltering to the extent that a person is crippled in their life.

This isn't a matter of Facebook or movies. A child who isn't told enough about evil to have the tools to fight that evil is over-sheltered. If I can't swim, then I'd best know what a pool is so that I don't innocently step into the deep end. If I don't know what a rattlesnake looks like, I won't know to not pick one up (or at least...not to pick it up by the tail...picking it up right behind the head so it can't bite...that just makes other girls squeal Very Happy ). Examples of "evil"...if I didn't know... *tries to think of good example* ... if I didn't know what "clubbing" was, then I wouldn't know that I shouldn't go clubbing when my fellow-students invited me. If I didn't know that there were people who would attack a young lass walking alone, I wouldn't know to be cautious when I walked to and from work or school or whatever.

Does that definition make sense?

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:43 pm

Exactly, Elisabeth.

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:26 pm

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Over-sheltering is sheltering to the extent that a person is crippled in their life.

This isn't a matter of Facebook or movies. A child who isn't told enough about evil to have the tools to fight that evil is over-sheltered. If I can't swim, then I'd best know what a pool is so that I don't innocently step into the deep end. If I don't know what a rattlesnake looks like, I won't know to not pick one up (or at least...not to pick it up by the tail...picking it up right behind the head so it can't bite...that just makes other girls squeal Very Happy ). Examples of "evil"...if I didn't know... *tries to think of good example* ... if I didn't know what "clubbing" was, then I wouldn't know that I shouldn't go clubbing when my fellow-students invited me. If I didn't know that there were people who would attack a young lass walking alone, I wouldn't know to be cautious when I walked to and from work or school or whatever.

Does that definition make sense?


Ditto - I also think that not allowing your children to make their choices rather or not you agree with them or not by.. 16/18 is over doing your job as parents because children often have to learn from their mistakes sometimes we don't listen if our parents say it wont work out we need to learn ourselves it wont and experience life for ourselves.


Also, I think their is other types of sheltering then ultra - extreme conservative-ness

Now, I am over sheltered in a sense. I have been to sleepovers I spent the week at my boyfriends house ( don't stone me; there were other people there) I've seen bad movies, and I have facebook and had myspace. I go to a fairly "liberal" youth group. Have some friends not tons but thats not my parents fault its because I'm quite in person and don't get along with girls very well, I have a boyfriend. am going to work at a crisis pregnany center that 40% percent of the patients are teenagers. I know about guys and sex and often spends lots of time alone with my boyfriend when he's in town ( I know evil huh? )




But knowing all that, My parents don't trust me to make the right decisions, Or believe that I will They dont trust me to be logical in what I do so that Im not kidnapped or raped or get myself in to trouble, They wont let me walk to the next row in the store in fear that someone out of the blue that no one will see but me will grap me and take me off in 30 seconds, they wont let me get my drivers liscense til i'm 18 so I don't get in any crashes, They pretty much wont let me do anything by myself.

now, on the flip-side of what I just said, when I went to my sleep over with my girlfriends we never did anything wrong, I use facebook Godly and safety\wisely. if I deem a movie bad I don't finish watching it. I got rid of myspace on my own choices because I decided I didn't feel it was safe or very Godly, I make good choices in my friends I have tons of friends that some of you would think are straight from hell but hey, they need friends too so, I do have a decent respectable boyfriend in which we are both virgins so... Do I deserve respect in all these areas that i don't get it? Yup, is it about me? No, its because they are to afraid something will happen to me. Or I'll have a moment of foolishness, or basically they are afraid to let me grow up and make my own choices because their afraid of me not being their little girl anymore. So Yeah, I'm over sheltered in that sense. they wont let me grow up and mature.. i miss out on a ton of church stuff and stuff with friends because my mom doesn't trust the people there to take care of it. To bad for them I am maturing and growing up anyways and they just choose to not see it. But yea, you can be over sheltered in that way too.
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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:05 am

LeesBeth wrote:

Now, I am over sheltered in a sense. I have been to sleepovers I spent the week at my boyfriends house ( don't stone me; there were other people there)



I have no stones, but I do have this:

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hehe... just kidding Beth!

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:01 am

LeesBeth wrote:
I use facebook Godly and safety\wisely....I make good choices in my friends...
The rest of your post is good, but this, I have a hard time believing....'cause you used Facebook last night to talk to me....I mean, how much more bad can you get? MrGreen Laughing I just felt like saying that for some reason...lol...umm...not to detract from this thread... *stops hijacking*

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:22 am

Hmm, I think there's a difference between over-sheltering and restricting/protecting, which Elisabeth summed up very nicely a few posts ago. In the case of the latter, both the parents and the child know about the "bad thing" - let's for the sake of argument use facebook. So, the child is fully aware how facebook works and what it is and the parents haven't tried to hide that from them. However, for whatever reason, the parents are uncomfortable with their child using facebook and therefore ban them from it, until they feel that they are mature enough to be able to handle it on their own and make correct judgements. The child may see that as restricting, the parents as protecting, but it comes down to the same root.

On the other hand, over-sheltering is based on not telling the child about "bad things" out there. I don't mean that everything needs to be explained in explicit detail to the child, but if the child isn't even aware of, say clubbing (to use Elisabeth's example), then they are being over-sheltered. The child is not being given the tools to deal with the issue in the future, when they reach an age that the parents deem suitable, but rather is left completely in the dark - and that's why they often tumble so much faster when they are exposed to the "bad thing". In fact, the child may not even necessarily know that it could be bad, or lead to problems, because they have no knowledge of how the "bad thing" operates or the effects it might have on their lives.
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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:28 am

One can know what a murder is and yet be pure.

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:09 am

Waltzing Rapunzel wrote:
One can know what a murder is and yet be pure.
Right WR. So, the kid needs to know that pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger will murder him/her...but they still are innocent of murder. (In order to maintain child-like innocence, though, they don't need to watch graphic movies showing killings...there may be a time that those are needed, but not when they're children.) To over-shelter a child would be to give him/her so little knowledge of guns that s/he is dangerous with a gun; to over-regulate would be to not allow the child to ever touch even a toy gun, which would thereby give it the allure of the forbidden, which combined with a lack of knowledge, makes it super dangerous.

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PostSubject: Re: What is over-sheltered?   Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:51 pm

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