I think you're missing one BIG thing about my perspective: I'm not asking to government to add MORE legislation. I'm asking the government to keep the legislation they already have.

I'm a small government person. Get the government out of my life, for goodness sake! It's not their business. BUT, I don't want the government to change legislation that is already in place, especially when it will conflict with the morals established by our founding fathers.

I also find it extremely ironic that the same liberals that want to legalize homosexual marriage are desperately trying to take away our other rights. The hypocrisy in our bi-partisan government goes BOTH WAYS!!

I understand your issue with the modern American church. You are expressing many of the same issues that bother me. However, my political positions have to match my religious commitments. I don't want the government to legislate morality, but I don't want it to change the moral legislation it already has!

Did you see Thomas's post? It's legalizing these horrid things that makes a country die.
Do you want to see America go extinct in the name of freedom? Do you want to kill our country happily saying "oh well, at least we didn't restrict them"?
In order to preserve the country, we need to keep these things illegal.

Well, you bring up another sticky part of the issue......state vs. federal government. I'm, personally, an advocate for state rights. As much as I appreciate what Lincoln did during his presidency, I have a really hard time justifying it. As much as I agreed with Bush's perspective in the Terry Shivo (sp?) case, I couldn't justify his quickness in stepping in.

First of all, let me say that I agree that the only REAL way to solve morality issues is through evangelism and discipleship. I totally agree. However, what I'm trying to point out is that allowing certain immoral behavior that has always, until recently, been morally repulsive and unacceptable to now be legalized is counter-productive. Essentially, you're making it easier for someone to fall prey to temptation and sin while still telling them that it's wrong. It's like taking your little five-year-old, setting an open jar of cookies right in front of him, within his reach and telling him "don't you dare touch those! I know you can. I know you want to. But you shouldn't!" Ultimately, you're making your own job more difficult because you know your five-year-old is unable to resist the temptation. Then you have to step in and try to fix the problem.

One last thing.....let me take your example of the government "whipping people who sleep together." I'm not saying we should do that, but think about what might have happened if that law were still in place. The punishment might stop more people from committing the immoral deed. If less people were committing sexual sin, there would be less unexpected pregnancy among single women. If there was less unexpected pregnancy, there would be less of a "need" or desire for abortion. If there was less of a demand for abortions, the government might not have legalized abortion. If the government had not legalized abortion, America wouldn't be killing billions of unborn lives.

All this merely to point out that these "moral issues" don't happen in a bubble. If we let loose on a "lesser" issue, it will eventually effect a greater issue. Who knows, maybe someday America will be murdering Christians like the Romans!

And I don't think God's law would fit into the Constitution....especially considering He demanded rebelious children to be stoned! I guess God denied the Israelites their basic human rights. But that was a different time, a different place, a different culture......(she said sarcastically! )

Don't underestimate the philosophy of Islam! Muslims are normal people just like us but with philosophies contrary to biblical teachings. Don't underestimate the power of Satan to use those seemingly innocent people! God cursed Ishmael and we are seeing the reprocusions of Abraham's sinful decision to this day!

I think it's unfair that God cursed Ishmael. He didn't do anything wrong. Abraham did.

Many people have philosophies contrary to Biblical teachings.

Then your tiff's with God, not the rest of us....

I think you're still missing my point, but whatever....

And also, whose standard of "fairness" are we looking at? We humans probably have a different view of what is fair than God does.
Romans 9 says some things too . . .

13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

16So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

17For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

18Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

19Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

God can do what He wants. He's God.