I don't know how I feel about government health care. It's all over my head. I guess I think it's a bad thing but I don't know why. It just sounds bad, I guess.

My family doesn't have any health insurance. We're just careful and have never really had big medical bills. Once, my sister needed a cyst removed from her wrist and once my Dad crushed his finger while working and had to have x-rays and get it bandaged but we've been blessed (see I do use blessed once in awhile ) and have been able to pay for those ourselves. Plus, those aren't like brain surgery or open heart surgery or needing to in intensive care for weeks or anything like that that's really expensive.

I think the bad thing about government health care is that it's one step towards Socialism. The government controls what health care you have and you can't make that decision yourself.

I KNEW socialised medicine would be brought up! I'd say it's a far cry from "real" socialism. We still have the choice of what kind of care, treatment, etc (if any) we get. We have absolute freedom to not vaccinate, or get natural treatments, or to use medicines, etc. We can choose to get private insurance, which Ben and I have, and we can choose whether to use government services - private or public hospitals - or not.
This is definitely just going to have to be a case of agree to disagree, because I personally believe that if A) there's going to be a government, then B) they may as well be working to provide for me/us and look after me/us. In fact, it's a case of "If you don't do things right by us, then see ya later at the next election". In a democracy, it ends up being the people who are in control by their voting (yes, I realise not even the democratic system is perfect and can be abused, etc, etc, but let's keep politics for another time )
As for the church... it should be doing a heck of a lot more in general, but that's a whole 'nother soap box for me!

Oh by the way all you yanks are paying for my medical bills.

thank you

I think the health care plan that's being considered right now would fund abortion, and tax-payers (as I understand it) would be paying for it. You wouldn't have a choice about paying for abortion because the tax money would go there.

I guess the problem that most of us have with it would be the government being the ONLY health care you could have. If they want to have a government funded healthcare, then that's ok as long as we have other options. If I can choose to have a better form of health insurance without having to pay for two, then I'm ok with it. I don't like having to pay for something that fully funds abortions.

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vigilance009 wrote:

Having a choice to pay extra for healthcare when you're already paying (via taxes) for healthcare doesn't seem like much of a choice to me. If you came through my aisle in the grocery store and wanted to buy brand-name chips, but I made you pay for the store-brand first...and you'd have to pay for 2 bags of chips (the store brand and the brand name) in order to get your bag of brand-name chips (you wouldn't get the store-brand bag - we'd give that to the lady behind you), would you be very happy?

See, I don't see it like that. I see that I am helping support those who can't afford it themselves. The store brand chips are going to those who can't afford to pay for them themselves, and that's fine by me. Sure, people abuse the system, hence "waste" my money, but that's between them and God/the system. I'll keep doing my part for those that genuinely need it. Partly because I have no choice, lol, but I do have a choice about my attitude about it, and I choose to see it positively! I am respecting the government, as instructed by God, and praying that the government makes the right choices with my money. Again, what they do is between them and God! I just do what I am supposed to do/can do.

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